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    Hi! I have just been introduced to this site by my fiance, who discovered it when looking for advice on dealing with our very own nfh (who is fairly mild in comparison with some I have heard about on this site!) I will be a qualified solicitor in 5 weeks time, and am lucky to have access to quite a few property specialists - rights of way and trepass stuff rather than criminal offences. I am more than willing to offer advice if I can - both in terms of time and knowledge!



    I guess the most important thing to do, time consuming and slightly obsessive as it is, is to keep a note of everything, with photographs (preferably APS etc so they have a date printed on them) to support the notes. Another important thing to do , no matter what the provocation, is not to give the nfh the reaction he is seeking. Do not yell back, do not retaliate, do not damage his property, poison his pets, insult his mother etc. This is perhaps the most difficult of all, but when it comes to legal action, which in so many cases it will, you will need to have a blemish free record if you want to really nail the nfh. If he can cite one occasion on which you wandered through his garden/ scratched your key down the side of his car/ had an 'accident' with some particularly nasty substance on his doorstep then you will look less deserving of the remedies you are entitled to. Not really fair, I know, but then life isn't ever fair is it?

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    Hi Winemonkey and welcome to the Forum great to have you with us



    It's sad that you're suffering from neighbours from hell (NFH), please feel free to share your story with us when or if you're ready.



    Looking forward to you sharing your advice and experience.

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    • #3
      Hey WineMonkey, great to have you on board.



      Another important thing to do , no matter what the provocation, is not to give the nfh the reaction he is seeking. Do not yell back, do not retaliate, do not damage his property, poison his pets, insult his mother etc. This is perhaps the most difficult of all, but when it comes to legal action, which in so many cases it will, you will need to have a blemish free record if you want to really nail the nfh. If he can cite one occasion on which you wandered through his garden/ scratched your key down the side of his car/ had an 'accident' with some particularly nasty substance on his doorstep then you will look less deserving of the remedies you are entitled to



      Could not have said it better myself. Its a pain sometimes especially when you know how many retorts you could come back with. They want a reaction above everything to see that you are being affected.



      Solicitors and letters everywhere today! Have a look at my Stupid Neighbours thread when you become a member with 10 posts and Mazza's on Whats your Story?



      Oh and well done on (soon) becoming a solicitor.
      Now, these creatures are bringers of death and misery. They will never eat, they will never sleep, and they will never stop.



      We are part of an ancient secret society. For three thousand years we have guarded the Cities and Towns. We are sworn at manhood to do any and all in our power to stop the NFH from ever being reborn into this world.




      So what's the plan?



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      • #4
        welcome winemonkey!



        nice to have you with us!, sorry to hear you have NFH probs too :sad:



        congrats and goodluck on your last 5 weeks!!

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        • #5
          Hi Winemonkey and welcome



          Love the name May I echo the sentiments of the other members and say 'glad to have you with us', albeit for a sad reason



          Hope your problems with NFH are very short lived Good luck on attaining solicitorship (Ok, it might not be a proper word, but it looks good )



          Misty
          "Almost anything you do will seem insignificant, but it is very important that you do it. You must be the change that you wish to see in the world." Gandhi

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          • #6
            Hi Winemonkey



            Welcome to the forum I say the same as the rest...so glad to have you with us



            Best of Luck with qualifying in 5 weeks :clover:



            Tri

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            • #7
              (I've moved this to make a new topic so it gets seen better )



              Welcome Winemonkey - great to have you here and looking forward to reading your posts



              :ban:

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              • #8
                Thanks for the welcome everyone. NFH has really annoyed me today by sending his old rag of a carpet off to the tip on my skip! I know I wanted it moved as he had left it on my parking space, and I know I should be glad it has finally gone, but the fact that he sneakily shoved it on the skip I have paid for is really annoying :angry:



                Oh well, I guess I should follow my own advice and rise above it! The syupid thing is he is trying to sell his house, and a couple who lied to a purchaser about their neighbour dispute recently had to pay out £67,500! Maybe I should just hope he is stupid enough to pretend all is well and then let my new neighbours clean him out when I tell them about all our problems (my fiance is Simon who tells our story on these pages under Tyres slashed and aerial cable cut...) :lol:



                :nfh1:

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                • #9
                  :lol:



                  but winemonkey, you are not the nfh !!!!



                  can the buyer still sue???
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                  • #10
                    Hi Annabel



                    If winemonkey's nfh sells and doesn't disclose official complaints have been made then the new buyers could sue the nfh vendor.



                    Oooh, winemonkey... I think that's a good one to keep up your sleeve.



                    :devil: :lol:

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                    • #11
                      :nfh1: That's right! The Seller's Property Information Form now has a space for the vendor (ie: my nfh) to list any disputes they have had with neighbours. As this whole thing started as a row over him walking through my garden without a right to do so :angry: he has to mention it to his purchasers. If he doesn't, they can sue him as there is an obligation on a vendor to disclose this information. If he doesn't understand the law now, he soon will if it hits him in the pocket! :hihi:

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                      • #12
                        Hi,



                        If he decided to stay would there be any obligation on you to mention the dispute if you decided to move? Could the dispute be resolved by legal action, enabling you to say that there was a dispute but it had now been solved - without going into details?
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                        • #13
                          isnt it after two years of peace you dont have to mention it?



                          am pretty sure if you are all quiet for 2 years you dont declare it

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                          • #14
                            Yes, interesting question this.........watched House Trapped the other evening and heard about the £67,000 compensation that the people who had a dispute with their NFH had to pay, but it was all a bit vague - no detail of what the dispute was about or whether the police were involved or not, or did I miss that bit?

                            I wonder too, Beth, if there's some sort of time limit on this?

                            Think a lot of forum members who are thinking of moving would be interested if anyone knows the definitive answer.

                            For example, say someone complained to the police about a neighbour years ago and they had since started to behave normally (unlikely, but possible ) would the fact still have to be disclosed?

                            Perhaps I should sell my house to NFH's daughter after all?

                            Mrs B
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                            • #15
                              Hi Winemonkey,



                              Welcome to the forum. It would be great if you could clear up what exactly constitutes a dispute. The reason I ask is because, although my problems with my neighbour were resolved amicably, I was advised not to enter into civil action against him as it would have to be declared as a dispute and could effect the price, not only I could get for my house but the price he could get for his house should either of us decide to sell.



                              I can see that an problem involving boundaries, shared space or any other issue that is being fought in the courts has to be declared. What I am not too clear about is do any sort of personal issues you may have with your neighbour have to be declared?



                              Do you have to declare things like your neighbours odious behaviour, or the fact that you simply don't like them? Hollygolightly said in a posting that there seems to be many grey areas and it would nice if somebody could define what a dispute is.



                              I live in a lovely area and am not planning on selling up but it would be nice to know any sort of pit falls that there may be if it came to it.



                              Take care Kevin

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