Saddam Hussain

[tortoise]

According to news reports he has been hanged.

I think he should of been left in prison to rot personally.

The problem is that everyone was so scared of him in Iraq, they did as they were told and the country ran along day to day.

Now there is no law and order as there is no fear and the country has suffered more deaths then when he was in charge!

I am not saying he should have been left in charge, what he did was terrible. But I think the US, UK and the UN could have done things differently about establishing a new government and basic law and order.

I doubt there will ever be peace in Iraq. He is now dead, but our forces continue to serve out there.Why?? Who are we fighting?

[Omega]

I haven't heard the news yet. I also thought he should have been kept in prison to rot and suffer by hanging him he has really got away with he did; altho he would never repent his actions, he was not that kind of person. Will have to watch and see the reactions now; god knows what will happen now in Iraq.

Here's the story:

Sadam Hussein (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6218485.stm)

Defiant to the end..............

[Witheridge]

This is a very imotive subject.............should he have been hanged,....... should he not, should the |British & Americans have gone in to help the minority shear, not forgetting the poor Kurds, slaughtered in their thousands...........Saddam, had to be removed, however it was done!!!!

As for the killings that go on daily over there.................again difficult to judge who is really at fault......should the British and Americans have anticipated this, & done something ? difficult too, to judge. I personally feel that no one can slang any of them, be it the Iraquis, British, or Americans for this volotile situation, you only have to look back at History (repeating itself).

This part of the world is a volotile one and I don't think anyone has ever known the answer, what one thinks they are doing for the best of the people in the country can turn and backfire on them (as it has done in this instance) blame the countries that went to liberate them..............I would not want to do that either (my opinion of course)

But then I was brought up in India, my parents lived there during the Hindu and Muslim uprising (I was only a babe then), so only know what my parents saw and lived through, ............it was the partitioning of East & West Pakistan, and India (no Bangladesh existed then) the blood shead that transpired there was (almost as bad as Iraq) !!!!

WHO was to blame there, should the British have left well alone and not brought "partition"? if they had left it alone, the hate between the Hindus and Muslims would have been a case of each of them wiping the other out of existance.

So the Birsish had advice on this very volotile situation and the general consensis was that partition would probably be the better of both evils................so India and Pakistan was devided............since then there has been, nothing but war between the two countries........So who got that wrong then? NOBODY (you can't keep blaming)

Just like Iraq...........Nobody is to blame for all this violence it is alway going to be a volatile part of the world.

You are damned if you do and damned if you don't...........So I do feel Britain has done the best of a bad job (honest) as has America.............nobody can predict how it will all turn out, you think you are doing it for the best and it has got a habit of turning around and biting you or of hitting you in the face, for trying your best.!!!!

I think the cowards to these conflicts are the Countrys that sit on their A**e and do nothing....because they know the problems, they will inevitably have to face,.... and they don't want to get involved and take responsibility ....is that a right attitude?

Look into History, this has happened before & it is happening all over again..................a difficult part of the world, no one has definate answers, they never have and probably never will...but to TRY is better than the Cowards that don't.

I am proud that they did try....................I probably stand alone on this.

Witheridge. P.S. sorry . :(

[c1rcle]

I didn't agree with him being hanged before it was done & I still don't, but now it's over it's time to think about what to do with Bush & Blair, they deserve the same punishment for their crimes.

[coppernob]

What stinks to me is Blair can say he is opposed to the death penalty and then bomb the hell out of Iraq, am I missing something? My OH works with some Iraq guys who are really pleased he is dead,it's their Christmas Day today apparently, so they told OH. I've always believed the death penalty is right for the Hindleys etc of this world now you have DNA testing but for some reason I'm not to comfy with the way Bush has carrried this out, mass murder of inocent civilians,isn't Bush guilty too? CN

[Planet 24]

Bush wanted Saddam dead from day one and now he has his wish come true.
I'm not sure that the outcome is the one I feel comfortable with.
Hanging is the simplest solution, a few seconds and then oblivion,the victims and their families live on, and the fighting continues.
Saddam has got what he wanted both as a military man and a dictator, a soldiers death and martyrdom.

[Bonkers Mad!!!]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(c1rcle @ 30th December 2006 - 6:14 PM) 221766</div>I didn't agree with him being hanged before it was done & I still don't, but now it's over it's time to think about what to do with Bush & Blair, they deserve the same punishment for their crimes.[/b]

i agree, a war crime is a war crime whoever commits it.

i don't agree with the death penalty under any circumstances. the whole concept of killing somebody is barbaric IMO, i cant think of any other word for it.
the pictures they showed on the news today sickened me, i know they stopped short of showing the actual execution but i still found it horrific that this could happen. i'm a news junkie and i have bbc news 24 on almost constantly but i switched it off after seeing the pictures this morning, i was deeply disturbed and it made me cry, not for saddam, for humanity :cry:

[Planet 24]

i was deeply disturbed and it made me cry, not for saddam, for humanity cry.gif[/b]

Well said BM :(

[coppernob]

I hope it's not an omen for the New Year. I know what you mean,BM, I've always got a News channel on but have to switch off,there's no need to show that,if anything it's stirring up the hatred, nothings been solved apart from Bush settling a score. CN

[Crazy Dog]

Ding dong, the witch is dead.

Now perhaps we can start tracking down those who supplied him with the tools to do the things he did - and bring them to justice. Fat chance of that happening but if it did a lot of Western politicians and company directors would be quaking in their blood-soaked boots.

[sesentayuno]

hi all,

Just saw the clip on the BBC website, it is sad to watch but I guess there would be people who are happy, I do not have personal experience living under his rule, so it would be hard for me to condemn people who look forward to his death. Hyprocrisy runs deep in politics, I do not believe the invading countries that went to Iraq went in with the aim to remove his regime or to stop any continual warfare, Saddam and the war on terror provided the excuses they needed to invade with or without UN consent. It was already obvious there was no plan in securing peace after the battle is won, they did, however, secure the oil fields. I have an Iraqi colleague who has family still living over there, he told me life was worse after the war, better the devil you know he said.

The only decent thing for the invading countries to do is to make sure the job is done and a decent level of peace is secured. If they don't, the rift between the Muslim world and west will widen even more :(

Ses

PS: A good documentary to watch IMHO that provided some fresh perspective into the coverage of war is "control room". Though bias to the Arab network Al Jazeera, it was the clips of an American press control room officer that left the deepest impression.

[Bonkers Mad!!!]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Crazy Dog @ 30th December 2006 - 10:46 PM) 221858</div>Ding dong, the witch is dead.

Now perhaps we can start tracking down those who supplied him with the tools to do the things he did - and bring them to justice. Fat chance of that happening but if it did a lot of Western politicians and company directors would be quaking in their blood-soaked boots.[/b]


i think you'll find that that was probably Donald Rumsfeld, under the Reagan administration.

[Speedy Gonzales]

Forgive me if I'm wrong, but don't murderous tyrants who play ball with the west get to die peacefully in hospital (Pinochet, Sharon, Amin etc) whereas it's only murderous tyrants who want to be selfish and not play ball ( Saddam) get their comeuppance? And then there are the murdering tyrants who don't really matter who get to live, unmolested, to a ripe old age, like those perpetrators of genocides in Rwanda and Darfur and lets not forget good ole Pol Pot....

We only bother about justice when it suits, but I still hope Bush and Blair are having nightmares about a similar fate if the Iraqis ever got their hands on them for Crimes against Humanity. There but for the Grace of God!

Speedy

PS Does anyone remember a "Spitting Image" song from about 1985 featuring Maggie and Saddam on a motorbike to the strains of "Leader of the Pack" done over as "The Leader of IraQ"? I have searched and searched for this but believe it to have been air-brushed from history along with the "special" relationship Maggie had with Saddam, so much so we sent him all that lovely germ-warfare stuff.

[rb2002]

Yep, I vaguely remeber that too speedy. It was when Iran was public enemy number one and we were sending arms to Iraq to help him defeat the evil iran :blink:
How times change.
I have always opposed the death penatly as barbaric. Does this execution make the people who passed sentance any better? I always think of the words of Ghandi in these situations. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.
There is no denying that Saddam was evil, he killed thousands of his own people Stalinist style. However, that is not the reason we were given for going to war, his capture has now become a justification though. We also acted independently of the United Nations, most UN members were agaisnt invasion, but we did it any way. It scares me.

[Crazy Dog]

I find it incredible that his body has been buried in his home village. So now, for all those fanatics who continue to support him, we have allowed a martyr's grave to be created.

The body should have been incinerated and the ashes dumped at sea.

[dollyshell]

Saddam was, without doubt, an evil human being (if you can call him that) but I'm not sure the death penalty was the right way to go. I understand people want justice but killing him doesn't bring bank the many people he had slaughtered. I don't think there is a punishment severe enough for someone like him.

[coppernob]

I havn't heard the Ghandi quote before,Rb, but I'll try and remember it (an eye for an eye making the world go blind) as it is so true! There are none so blind as those who can not see. We think we live in a free society with a free press but we are only fed what our leaders want us to hear and see, I really hope Bush and Blair go soon.CN

[ozzychick]

Good riddance to bad rubbish.

He was an evil man who tortured and made peoples lives a living hell for many years, he even gassed his own people!

He deserved everything he got, the world is better off without him.

[Annabel]

On the one hand I think, good riddance to the murdering evil G*T, one less to worry about, then on the other hand because of the heavy involvement of the US/UK etc in his trial I feel we have his blood on our hands, and as we are a country that doesnt have the death penalty, it doesnt sit very well with me.

I have seen the full hanging video that was taken on a mobile phone and I cant believe that such a thing was permitted and that the hanging was done in such an open and undignified manner, with the executioners looking like IRA bombers. if they are going to execute someone at least do it with some decorum, if not for the prisoners sake but for the authority doing the execution.

bl**dy appalling mess all round. i sincerely hope it is not repeated.

[Planet 24]

For sure we have blood on our hands, we have a history of educating these tyrants in the ways of war, then arming them and watching from the sidelines while they get rid of a permitted by UK/US enemy.
Remember Amin, a former UK soldier, who slaughtered 300,000 in Uganda and then died in exile in Saudi Arabia.
And Pinochet, another one we managed to 'help'out.
All well and good while our governments are arming and training them to do what is acceptable on the hidden agendas
but the trouble with megalomaniacs is they're not easily controlled..... you only have to look at Bush to see that.

[coppernob]

And it was America who supplied Sadam with his weapons, gases etc to fight and slaughter the kurds when Iran was America's public enemy no.1, how short their memories are.CN