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Planet 24
17-11-06, 01:16 PM
The number of children admitted to hospital with alcohol-related conditions has risen by more than 20 per cent in the last five years.

Twenty youngsters a day are being diagnosed with conditions such as alcohol poisoning and behavioural disorders due to excessive drinking, according to NHS figures.

The statistics obtained by BBC1's Panorama programme also show that in Cheshire and Merseyside alone more than 10 under-18s per week are admitted because of drink abuse.

Ian Forster of the North West Ambulance Service said there had been a noticeable increase in the number of underage drinkers picked up in Liverpool.

He said: "It's not unusual for a child to have drunk a litre of vodka - that would have me on my back for three or four weeks.

"Resources are quite sp******** anyway, so to be dragged from pillar to post all over the city for underage drinking, which is avoidable, is keeping us from the patients that we're trained to treat.''

In the last five years, the number of under-18s being admitted to hospital with alcohol-related conditions has risen from 6,288 in 2000/1 to 7,579 in 2004/5, according to the NHS Information Centre.

Experts say the Government's harm reduction strategy, which aims to address the problem of alcohol abuse in society, is not working.

Professor Ian Gilmore, President of the Royal College of Physicians, said: "I think the fact that we're seeing things getting worse, rather than better, two years after a harm reduction strategy, means we need to revisit this very urgently, and what we cannot afford to do is wait the 40 years that it took with smoking.

"We know that the tobacco industry was incredibly powerful. It took a long time to get the health messages home. We cannot afford that same long timescale with alcohol.''

A Department of Health spokeswoman said: "Tackling binge drinking is a priority. Although levels of binge drinking are no longer rising, there is no room for complacency.''

Progress was being made and commitments in the Government's Alcohol Harm Reduction Strategy were on track, the Department said.

StoneHenge
17-11-06, 01:38 PM
I think a lot of the problem is, we making drinking such a taboo subject in one sense, but then glamourise it in another (there is a pub in most soaps these days which is usually the hub of the activity).

You don't get such statistics in France where children are given alcohol with their meals from a fairly young age, so don't see drinking as the thing to do to impress your friends, because everyone already does it.

I think we are aiming in the wrong direction, plus the amount of aloco pop drinks and other drinks specifically aimed at younger people says it all. Get them young, get them hooked and stuff the consequences.

Each advert advertising alcohol has to put the phrase 'drink responsibly' in the advert. However, you'd miss it if you blinked.

They need to change things, and do it now. I remember reading somewhere that the NHS were charging for ambulances for drink related instances, because this was taking too many resources away from those that really needed it. If enough of their parents were to get bills for ambulances, then they would start controlling their child's drinking.

OK, if they go out and get trollyed without you knowing, there is little you can do about it until it's too late, but I'd hate to be the parent sitting at home that gets that phone call.

It certainly makes the yob culture of today worse than ever given that alcohol subsides inhibitions and makes you feel like you are untouchable, especially when encouraged by your gang of friends (so called!).

It's disgusting P24. When I was young, we all did the get out and get drunk thing, but it was once in a while. usually at the end of the week to wind down, not as frequently as they seem to now.

Planet 24
17-11-06, 01:51 PM
I agree, we were all young and we all had to try to drink ourselves stupid (operative word), some stayed with it and some didnt.
The problem with any drug and after all that's what we are talking about, is that it lowers your inhibitions and makes you think you are invincible.
How many of us on here suffer because our NFH get loaded?

StoneHenge
17-11-06, 02:03 PM
Yup!! Even the KFH regularly got totalled, and the night she and her drunk friends came into my garden calling me a fat sl*g (whilst I was heavily pregnant) said it all, as it would never had happened had they been sober. They would have been too scared.

Noise Stopper
17-11-06, 08:16 PM
Where did you say we were going, Hell? And why am I in this handcart?

Ian :nfh1:

Neighboured
20-11-06, 01:58 AM
The mistake was when a previuos government decided it was going to give virtually everyone who wanted one a license to sell alcohol. They were warned of the likely consequences of their action, but muttered something about "market forces" and left it at that.

I believe this might have increased the NFH problems, too.

Crazy Dog
20-11-06, 09:00 AM
Unfortunately market forces will almost always win so long as politicians are allowed to invest in capitalist organisations.

All income for any politician should come solely from their work for the community.