CHARGES FOR RUBBISH

[Hulablush]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5404730.stm

Here's another mad idea which will mean that NFH put their rubbish in other people's bins so they don't pay.

HOLD ON A MINUTE.... WHAT WAS I THINKING?!? NFH DO NOT USE BINS!!! SILLY HULA!!! :D

[Eeyore]

I foresee more fly tipping and more rubbish piled everywhere :(

Dopn't we pay council tax already so that we get rubbish collected??

[Crazy Dog]

I live in a small block of flats. In a typical week I throw away approximately 1 carrier bag of rubbish. I usually eat only raw fruit and veg. I drink, more often than not, tea. Tea bags and all other compostable waste including some paper and cardboard gets composted. Excess newspapers, cardboard, etc is taken to a recycling collection point once every few months.

a) I don't need or want a wheelie bin. It's no use to me.

b ) If I'm forced to have one it'll end up full of other people's rubbish. I guarantee it. My NsFH are not going to pass up an opportunity to make me pay for removal of their not inconsiderable waste mountain.

c) I strongly object to paying for a service that I have already paid for. I cannot imagine that councils are going to reduce council tax bills simply because rubbish is being charged for another way.

d) Will those people on council tax benefit be exempt from paying for rubbish removal? Hell no. I guarantee it.

e) I will expect my garden to end up full of neighbours' rubbish. If it goes into my wheelie bin I end up paying for its removal. Any rubbish I find thrown into my garden will be reported as fly-tipping but I don't think the council will give a damn.

I sincerely hope this ill-conceived scheme will be dropped before it causes serious problems.

[vintage]

Councils face tough decisions over what to do with waste
why don,t the Council put bugs in the bin to target nfh :hihi:

[StoneHenge]

If it were me, I would give a council tax rebate to those who recycled and therefore produced less rubbish, and charged those who took no part in recycling anything at all (like most NFH). That way, the government still make money but the good eggs save in the long run.

To charge on top of what we already pay as council tax is the governments only justifiable tool for us to incur more costs. Tax. It's the only weapon they have.

We do not have, or are not geared up for major recyling in this country. The amount of revenue that will be spent on customising and/or replacing the bin lorries to compensate for all these new changes will be enormous funded by Europe because they believe we should be up to their standard. however many places (like Switzerland) have had excellent recylcing facilities for a very long time and this cost is not passed on because it was geared up to do it in the first place.

We are way behind the times in a lot of aspects and it will be very interesting to see how many people start fly tipping, sneaking rubbish into other people's bins and trying to destroy the chips installed. This has already been done in one place by a man who did not believe he should have to pay the extra. He was then refused rubbish collection until he paid for a new bin.

The councils are supposedly short of money, yet they will spend millions issuing new wheely bins, when in a lot of places (like where I live) we have only had wheely bins for a short period of time anyway. Waste of time, money. open to mountains of abuse and one of the worst ideas I've ever heard of.

[sp54]

It's a crazy idea :angry:


Our own NFH already only have 2 ways of disposing of their rubbish and others will follow -

1] Fly tipping [when NFH moved in they openly told us that was what they were planning on doing]

2] Bonfires [our NFH had several a week]


Nice :sad:

[Hulablush]

Or.... do what someone I know did.....

He ripped the chip out!!! :P The chip in this particular area was used to also tell how many times you open and closed your wheelie bin and where it went!!! What fascinating data to collate!! :bigeyes: :blink:

The Councils are trying to say that it will encourage people to recycle.... no it won't. If people are so determined NOT to recycle or CANNOT recycle, then it will be no use.

[dozer]

And another thing Hula.... most of the 'students' round us are into recycling, even though they are otherwise NFH, some sort of peer-pressure thing, maaan. So they dutifully cart out the sorted cardboard, plastic, tins etc. to the new special expensive (and miraculously not yet cremated by chavs) dedicated wheelie-wagon thingies. Hordes of enthusiastic but dim enviro-zealots. Bins fill up as soon as they get emptied.
So when they're full, do they stick it in the actual giant common rubbish-skip things right next to them, or haul it back upstairs to think again, or even toddle round the corner to the other ones?
Yep, you guessed it, they just pile it up on top! Till the things are entombed in trash. And the bockles are done at a different place half-a-mile away, sooo heavy. Just dump them in carriers and boxes in the street by the bins. Mum&dad, or maybe the scaffie, or the fairies, 'll be along soon to clear it up, we're off to the pub. :clap2:
Stoney U R right. Our german friends were utterly scandalised by the fact that we didn't have dedicated battery recycling facilities (ordinary ones, for gadgets, not cars).
'But zey are toxic, and full of rare metall...!'
'oh tell me about it dear, like we don't know..'
They seemed to think it was some sort of gross moral failing on our part :cry:

[Hulablush]

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And another thing Hula.... most of the &#39;students&#39; round us are into recycling, even though they are otherwise NFH, some sort of peer-pressure thing, maaan. So they dutifully cart out the sorted cardboard, plastic, tins etc. to the new special expensive (and miraculously not yet cremated by chavs) dedicated wheelie-wagon thingies. Hordes of enthusiastic but dim enviro-zealots. Bins fill up as soon as they get emptied.
So when they&#39;re full, do they stick it in the actual giant common rubbish-skip things right next to them, or haul it back upstairs to think again, or even toddle round the corner to the other ones?
Yep, you guessed it, they just pile it up on top&#33; Till the things are entombed in trash. And the bockles are done at a different place half-a-mile away, sooo heavy. Just dump them in carriers and boxes in the street by the bins. Mum&dad, or maybe the scaffie, or the fairies, &#39;ll be along soon to clear it up, we&#39;re off to the pub. :clap2:
Stoney U R right. Our german friends were utterly scandalised by the fact that we didn&#39;t have dedicated battery recycling facilities (ordinary ones, for gadgets, not cars).
&#39;But zey are toxic, and full of rare metall...&#33;&#39;
&#39;oh tell me about it dear, like we don&#39;t know..&#39;
They seemed to think it was some sort of gross moral failing on our part :cry:
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I was going to say that we shall end up with even more rats if the bin men will not collect&#33;

Well in Italy they have exactly the same battery recycling thing going on and years ago, even in the smallest villages, they had battery bins EVERYWHERE. I still do not know why they do not do it here.... :blink:

[vintage]

i am living in the property which is a lovely terracedhouse divided into two flats, situated on a very busy main road---i am downstairs and they are upstairs we rent from brighton Council.
are bins used to be near are backdoor next to are nfh black bags
but when we got are wheelie bins we had to put them near are front door to stop them puting there rubbish in are wheelie bin
are Council is on the over side of are road and we have seen dump rubbish put outside there doors of the council
and also on the main road with cars going around them
we compost anything that we can and recycling are waste