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Nnnoooooooooooooooo!!!!!!
I think I am having hot flushes. :bigeyes: :cry:
It happened last night and I pretended to myself that at 10pm we must be having a nocturnal heatwave :rolleyes: I find that burying my head in the sand sometimes works a treat :unsure: :lol:
I am sitting here on my puter, and just started feeling really hot again. Mr sp just looked at me and said 'I think you are having a hot flush'
:badmood: Well, I nearly slapped him :lol: . You would think he would be enough of a gentleman to at least ignore it Hhmph! :badmood:
I can't possibly be having the wretched things. I am still a teenager in my head so that gives me loads more years yet. :unsure: When my head catches up with my body will be time enough for me to accept it and not a moment sooner :rant: :badmood:
OMG, I am turning into my mother !!
sp. off to eat chocolate and sulk :cry:
Bonkers Mad!!!
17-08-06, 10:01 PM
i have but one question, do you drive? :rolleyes:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Bonkers Mad!!! @ 17th August 2006 - 9:00 PM) 190240</div>
i have but one question, do you drive? :rolleyes:
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:unsure: Errrr, nooooo, :unsure: only people up the wall !!!
sp, in denial and phoning the Met Office.......
Bonkers Mad!!!
17-08-06, 10:05 PM
GOOD! hot flushes and driving DO NOT mix ;)
:lol: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi:
I'm with you, it's that 'Lady whatsit' again, isn't it? :lol: :hihi: ;)
:lol: :hihi: oh no you two dont even go there she will be cross :o
dont worry sp you get used to it trying standing in a shop queue and getting one :blush:
little tip wear layers incase you feel the need to strip off :cry:
:cry: :cry_more:
I am sure it is all a terrible mistake, and that there is just a warm front lurking over my town at the moment - and last night too :rolleyes: - but just in case it isn't, is there anything homeopathic you can take?
I don't want to do this :angry: I refuse to get older :lol: :hihi: :P
Does chocolate help? :unsure:
I can't bear the thought of it all - :sad: :cry:
Some of you peeps are getting them quite young then ??
What us girls have to go through, eh? :(
Perhaps it was just a 'two off' :unsure: :lol: and I will not have any more :rolleyes: :unsure:
I suddenly feel the need to go clubbing or take a gap year :lol: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi:
ellengrace
17-08-06, 11:23 PM
SP, you might get a few more replies now that all the "old girls" like me have finished watching "Bus Pass Boob Jobs" on the telly!
I didn't have the option of HRT and didn't have a natural progression of symptoms anyway because I had the full-on hot-flushes after hysterectomy.
I bought a few good books, found some good advice about phyto-estrogens. I was vegetarian anyway, so used soya proteins. But apparently it helps to have soya drinks regularly thro' the day.
Look up plant-estrogens and dietary advice on the internet. I lost all my books in the NFH business, and can't remember the titles/authors for you.
The body's thermostat goes so crazy it can make having a sauna feel like a breeze in comparison.!!
My friend now tells anyone planning a family to think hard about timing: because teenagers and menopause just don't go together!!
..... oops, think I might be under-age for this thread.....
:blush: :blush: :blush:
(**slinks away**).......
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I WISH!! Argh! :cry:
I really DO have sympathy sp - I dread the menopause and I get paranoid about it sometimes as I often feel like a radiator in bed, even when I've been cold all evening. Plus, I hope I don't get every symptom going as bad as my mother did - that was awful :cry:
(Oh, Yi Win - I'm sure we're too young!!!!! You must be right - probably just "normal" hormones if there is such a thing!)
Please try not to worry abot it sp - the more you dread something happening, the worse you'll feel when it does. I'm sure the others are happy to offer any advice they can - some wise words here already :thumbs: :salut:
The joys of being female, huh? :cry: Snot fair!!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ellengrace @ 17th August 2006 - 10:23 PM) 190293</div>
SP, you might get a few more replies now that all the "old girls" like me have finished watching "Bus Pass Boob Jobs" on the telly!
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:lol: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi: Oh, ellengrace, thank you, that has made me laugh sooo much. I have just choked on my cocoa when I read that :lol: :hihi:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(mumski @ 17th August 2006 - 10:27 PM) 190296</div>
Ellengrace you and me too!!
I had to have an HRT implant [sorry folks look away now] as everything was taken away :cry:
Awoke after op with an implant under the skin which was repaced every 6 months or so.
Had implants done at surgery and took my own stitch out :blush:
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Oooh :blink:
I still have all 'my bits' but my 3 older sisters all had hysterectomies before all this malarky - one in her 30's and 2 in their early 40's, so I am the only one to go through it 'this way' - well that's if I am starting to go through it, of course, it is probably not that at all. Other things can cause hot flushes too ..........like TB :rolleyes: :unsure: :blink:
sp
this is the best info i could find that wasnt gobbledegook
http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/diseases/facts/menopause.htm
meant to say earlier as well a simple blood test by your gp will let you know for sure if you are going through the menopause :)
Bonkers Mad!!!
18-08-06, 12:00 AM
SP, i'm sure the answer to all of your questions is chocolate :hihi: :thumbs:
Cheers, er :D :thumbs:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Bonkers Mad!!! @ 17th August 2006 - 11:00 PM) 190317</div>
SP, i'm sure the answer to all of your questions is chocolate :hihi: :thumbs:
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:lol: :hihi: :hihi: Oh, how I wish, BM :lol:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(sp54 @ 17th August 2006 - 11:02 PM) 190318</div>
Cheers, er :D :thumbs:
:lol: :hihi: :hihi: Oh, how I wish, BM :lol:
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:hihi: :hihi: Couldn't hurt to try though, could it? ;0 Been known to work on PMT - it's all about hormones too....
Miss Understood
18-08-06, 12:23 AM
I'm going through That Stage and have been known, several times last winter, to walk around in short sleeved t-shirts and open toed sandals whilst everyone else was wrapped up in scarfs, coats and thick boots.
Tonight, I reckon it really is humid which is why I'm warm. Too warm C'pn. I suspect the Met Office would disagree with me though....
Purely in the interest of medical science, I will volunteer to become a guinea pig for testing the chocolate theory Smoo :thumbs: ;)
And, yes, you are right, it definitely works with PMT, so maybe there is something in it :lol: :unsure:
:D MU, I am still in denial and blaming the weather :lol:
SP you must have been reading my mind when you put this post on here - you beat me to it :hihi:
My GP took me off HRT a month ago as I had been on it since I had "some of it taken away!" when I was 32 yrs old :sad: they said that 24 years was tooooooooo long to be taking it due to the risks ie breast cancer etc :sad:
So now I am getting "overheated" quite a few times a day (my mother-in-law is very tactful (not!) she looks at me and says out loud "are you having one because I can see your neck getting redder :blush: ); anyway I went to see the HRT nurse last week and she put me on something called Chlonodine 2 twice a day :thumbs: great I thought it takes about a month for them to start working.
Then on Sunday I started getting pains from my knee's and down my shins; both legs - in fact it was waking me up in the night; so another trip to the GP this morning - and his verdict? Could be the Chlonodine so I am to stop taking it :banghead: Only you cannot just stop - you have to stop gradually over a couple of weeks :rant:
I've also had to have a blood test this morning - go back for results in two weeks.
Great isn't they give you one tablet a day to help with the menopause, take you off that and give you 4 tabs a day to help with the side effects of coming off HRT and now I have to come of those too because of side effects :banghead: I give up; whoops here comes another flush :blush:
Next time, Omega, I might just come back as a man :badmood:
sp, sitting here with fan on :lol:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(sp54 @ 17th August 2006 - 11:42 PM) 190348</div>
Next time, Omega, I might just come back as a man :badmood:
sp, sitting here with fan on :lol:
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:thumbs: That's sound a good idea :thumbs: They don't seem to suffer like we do!!! :hihi: (Have you noticed that Mothers day is exactly nine months after fathers day hmmmmm ;) )
Just thinking I wonder how many of the male members ( :blush: ) have sneaked a look at this posting just to see what "we girls" are talking about - come on guys own up :lol:
ellengrace
18-08-06, 01:24 AM
Omega, the leg pains are, I think, a symptom of the menopause itself. My friend has been suffering with that problem on-and-off for quite a while. She isn't on any medication at all. Needless to say her doctor didn't have a clue , so she's googled a lot of info but said she had to really hunt and anyway couldn't find anything about meds to relieve the leg pain.
I've already said I had no natural symptoms over time, everything for me was like being hit by a bus, post-hysterectomy. But I had the leg pains, drove me crazy at night. They only lasted for a short time, though. Weeks at most, whereas my friend has had the problem for over a year.
So perhaps, in normal menopause, its a symptom of change that is gradual.
That sounds jumbled: I think my body's residue of hormones disappeared in the weeks following the surgery, and once they'd "gone" (!!) the leg pains stopped.
Naturally, I suppose the leg pains are with you while the hormones gradually disappear.
My hot-flushes....and that term doesn't come anywhere near describing the feeling.....lasted four years full-on and over this fifth year gradually decreased and are now only very occasional. If I didn't have my soya-fixes the hot flushes were much worse.
ellengrace
18-08-06, 01:31 AM
Omega, have just looked at your post again. You might have same thing,post-HRT withdrawal, as post-hysterectomy, so you may only have the leg pains for a matter of weeks.
Small mercies!!
I am thankfully not at the flushing stage - but I've been through it - with Eeyores mam, days of sweating (her not me) and red faces, it's unbearable (for both of us)
Have you tried going to the health food shop and getting some natural supplements? I dragged Eeyores mam this summer and she has sage tablets (get the tablets not the tincture, it's vile) and they do seem to be working as we've not had red faces and Eeyores mam melting into a puddle - even if it takes the edge off, that's better than nothing eh? :)
Some health food places also recommend black cohosh, I know eeyores mam has also taken this in the past too
Bonkers Mad!!!
18-08-06, 09:40 AM
i think my mum took sage :yes:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Yi Win @ 18th August 2006 - 6:54 AM) 190383</div>
er.... nope - you'd miss the ability to multi task and keep your bits under control
:hihi: :hihi: :hihi:
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:lol: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi: Oh, silly me, I forgot that :thumbs: Nice one, Yi :D
Eeyore, if they continue [ still telling myself both times were a fluke :D ] I thought I would take a look at herbal type remedies.
Of course it is not going to happen again though, not for ages yet ............ :lol:
Annabel
18-08-06, 11:40 AM
I am not at the stage of hot flushes yet, but I work in an office with three (yes count them - three) menopausal women and I have sat at my desk and watched on many an occasion as first one, then the other, then the other got hot flushes....its flipping awful. :(
one of the women had been on HRT for ages, then her doc said to come off as she was nearly 60 and he was concerned about the risk of cancer etc, she was absolutely miserable to find her hot flushes came back and with a vengeance, tried all sorts of natural remedies like black cohosh and sage, nothing helped, she eventually went back to her doctor and begged to be able to get back on the HRT. :bigeyes:
One of my other colleagues has taken nothing for her symptoms ever so even in the depths of winter she will be fanning herself and asking to switch the heating off, meanwhile the rest of us will be sitting there with freezing hands and feet... :blink:
its such a malarkey :sad:
sassieb
18-08-06, 11:49 AM
Im with you on the hot flushes!
I feel like im alight on the inside and i just cannot cool off then after a while,, a loooooong while,, its goes.
not nice
Annabel
18-08-06, 11:52 AM
I meant to say as well, that a couple of the ladies i work with say their hot flushes are worse at night and they lie on towels 'cos of the sweat....
*runs off to put head in sand in hope it will never happen to her*
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Annabel @ 18th August 2006 - 10:52 AM) 190501</div>
*runs off to put head in sand in hope it will never happen to her*
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:lol: :hihi: :thumbs:
Any health food shop like Holland and Barrett should be able to help (we go to a tiny little independent) with sage and the like, Eeyores mam was on HRT and the doc took her off after many years, and we (let alone her) can't take the sypmtoms - the black cohosh and also the sage have helped take the edge off the hot sweats (and believe me, there was some serious sweating going on).
You can buy products online too but if you can, go to the health food shop and ask :)
Here (http://www.vitaminevi.com/Herb/Black_Cohosh-F.htm) is a bit about black cohosh and also here (http://www.healthywaymagazine.com/issue20/09_sage_hot_flushes.html) about sage
:D Thanks for that, Eeyore :thumbs:
Bonkers Mad!!!
18-08-06, 05:14 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(mumski @ 18th August 2006 - 4:04 PM) 190692</div>
What's puberty? I haven't been through that yet :blush: :hihi:
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yep, you've lost me too :blink:
Eeyores mam
18-08-06, 06:16 PM
Sage tablets and soya tablets from a health food shop do help. The flushes don`t go away completely but they aren`t as vicious.
Hopefully most of you will get over this in a couple of years but as the doctor said to me when I tackled him about it being 20 years of this " some women will have this for the rest of their lives and you must be one of them. Learn to cope". I did. I went to the health food shop for help.
Don`t get the sage linctus though that is horrendous.
Black cohosh is another thing to take but there was a scare about that a few weeks ago so I am now doing the sage thing
:bigeyes: 20 years??? Flipping heck :o
Will def. look into the sage thing. Thanks :D
ellengrace
18-08-06, 06:30 PM
What about the change in body-shape?? :sad:
I got the tape measure out in the early days of "change", when I noticed my waist had disappeared.
New vital stats : 39-39-39 !! :(
Never wanted to take any further measurement because I just continued to expand in the same tree-like proportions. :rolleyes:
YES!!!
I have put weight on just around my middle :badmood:
I used to look like a pear, now I look like like a Granny Smith :lol: :hihi: :hihi:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(mumski @ 18th August 2006 - 8:19 PM) 190799</div>
Oh Dear I could really upset you all and say "hair" :hihi: :bigeyes: :hihi:
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:wow:
Can I take any more shocks :lol: :rolleyes:
:lol: :hihi: Oh, Mumski, I have sooooooo much to look forward to - I can't wait :lol: :hihi: :hihi:
Just popping out for a minute to have a discreet sob :cry: :crybaby: :lol:
Did my menopause early at 45 (my mum was 35 so its runs in the family) can honestly say when it finished which in my case was about two years to be completely symptom free was the best thing ever, no moods, no pain, no carrying things in my handbag just in case, yes you do put on weight and yes you do find the odd stray hair appearing where it shouldn't but you are free of all the things that made that time of the month a real pain for you and sometimes for the people around you, look forward to it ladies, you will be free! :D
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(mumski @ 18th August 2006 - 8:51 PM) 190818</div>
SP I haven't laughed sooo much for ages, I will shut up now ...............
Oh Dear, what have I done to you, I am sorry :cry: :lol: :blink: :) :( :hihi: :bigeyes:
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:crybaby: :cry_more: It's ok, mumski, I'll be alright, once I have finished sobbing and thumping the tear stained cushions :P
Fedup - You must be really glad it is all over for you after reading this thread :lol:
Bonkers Mad!!!
18-08-06, 10:12 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(mumski @ 18th August 2006 - 8:34 PM) 190805</div>
Sorry SP it disappears from where you want it and sprouts profusely where you most definitely don't want it........... :bigeyes: :bigeyes: :bigeyes: :bigeyes: :bigeyes:
I am laughing so much here sorrryyyyyyyyyyyy
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blimey, i've been getting sp********r in that there place since i was about 27 :bigeyes: i'm only 35, at this rate i'll be completely bald before the menopause hits :lol:
sassieb
18-08-06, 10:25 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(mumski @ 18th August 2006 - 8:34 PM) 190805</div>
Sorry SP it disappears from where you want it and sprouts profusely where you most definitely don't want it........... :bigeyes: :bigeyes: :bigeyes: :bigeyes: :bigeyes:
I am laughing so much here sorrryyyyyyyyyyyy
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:bigeyes: :hihi:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Bonkers Mad!!! @ 18th August 2006 - 9:11 PM) 190836</div>
blimey, i've been getting sp********r in that there place since i was about 27 :bigeyes: i'm only 35, at this rate i'll be completely bald before the menopause hits :lol:
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Never had much to start with :unsure: ,, i can lose what little i have :cry:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(dibuzz @ 18th August 2006 - 9:20 PM) 190838</div>
BM I know what you mean, i even found a grey one a while ago but luckily I have put so much weight on that I can't see down there now :blush:
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:bigeyes: :wow:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(dibuzz @ 18th August 2006 - 9:20 PM) 190838</div>
BM I know what you mean, i even found a grey one a while ago but luckily I have put so much weight on that I can't see down there now :blush:
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:lol: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi: @ Dibuzz
Oh, you are all cheering me up tonight :thumbs: :D ........
..............I think :unsure:
OMG I don't want this!!!
My prayer for tonight
Please god what ever I lose on my bits don't let it grown on my chest
when I feel hot let it be Mr T's problem and not a flush
and when I feel grumpy let it not be hormones just a hangover from clubbing
AMEN :blush: :bigeyes:
sassieb
18-08-06, 10:29 PM
:hihi: :hihi: :hihi:
imagining the horrified expressions is whats killing me
:hihi: :hihi: :hihi:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(tact77 @ 18th August 2006 - 9:28 PM) 190848</div>
OMG I don't want this!!!
My prayer for tonight
Please god what ever I lose on my bits don't let it grown on my chest
when I feel hot let it be Mr T's problem and not a flush
and when I feel grumpy let it not be hormones just a hangover from clubbing
AMEN :blush: :bigeyes:
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:lol: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi: @ Tact :thumbs: :notworthy: :clap2:
At this rate I'll get a hot flush through laughing [or is that through fear :unsure: :lol: ]
:lol: :hihi: :blush:
not fair though is it ladies all those years being loyal wives and loving mums and this is what we get huh !!
and what do men get gold medallions sports cars and toupe's :o
:lol: Mr Sp wants a sports car - spot on, er :lol: :thumbs:
Bonkers Mad!!!
18-08-06, 10:53 PM
i've never found a grey one there :bigeyes: i didnt know that happened :( well in that case i'm off for a shave. :lol:
you lot are absolutely NUTS :lol: :P :lol: :thumbs:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Bonkers Mad!!! @ 18th August 2006 - 9:53 PM) 190871</div>
i've never found a grey one there :bigeyes: i didnt know that happened :( well in that case i'm off for a shave. :lol:
you lot are absolutely NUTS :lol: :P :lol: :thumbs:
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Apparently :rolleyes: it does happen, but did you know you can use eyelash and eyebrow dye 'down there'? NOT normal hair dye though oooh, ouch! :wow:
So I have been told :rolleyes: ;)
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(dibuzz @ 18th August 2006 - 10:05 PM) 190882</div> Well nobody sees mine so I'll leave it as it is :D [/b]
:lol: :hihi: :thumbs: oh god my ribs hurt through laughing :bigeyes:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(mumski @ 18th August 2006 - 10:06 PM) 190883</div>
I MUST stop laughing my other post menopause problem has started up............. :cry: :lol: :cry:
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:lol: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi:
NNNnnooooooooooooooooooooooooo, Mumski, don't tell me I can't take any more and now you made me spill my Horlicks laughing :lol: :hihi:
sassieb
18-08-06, 11:26 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(dibuzz @ 18th August 2006 - 10:05 PM) 190882</div>
Well nobody sees mine so I'll leave it as it is :D
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:hihi: :hihi: :hihi:
I cant laugh much more,, it hurts
:unsure: Amongst all our frivolity, I have just realised I haven't had one of those nasty hot things tonight [yet :unsure: ]
The last 2 nights it was between 9-10 pm, so is that it then, is it all over, or was it all just a false alarm???? :rolleyes: :lol: :hihi:
Or is it that I am sitting in front of the fan again? :unsure:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(mumski @ 18th August 2006 - 10:06 PM) 190883</div>
I MUST stop laughing my other post menopause problem has started up............. :cry: :lol: :cry:
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Mumski I know exactly what you mean :blush:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(mumski @ 18th August 2006 - 9:59 PM) 190876</div>
Well mine is streaked like my hair............. :bigeyes:
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You say it's expensive? But if you have bleach in your loo isn't it cheaper to sit on it whilst it's flushing :blush: :bigeyes: :hihi:
This is the best read there has been on here for ages :thumbs: :thumbs:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(dibuzz @ 18th August 2006 - 10:32 PM) 190900</div>
I wouldn't like to go to mumski's hairdresser, I can just see her now stood naked waiting her turn :bigeyes:
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I can't see me trying that one in our local Supercuts somehow :lol: :hihi:
I must stop laughing out loud :blush: mr sp is getting suspicious and wants to know why I keep giggling , and I am NOT telling him our girly problems :P
sassieb
18-08-06, 11:39 PM
Im sat here burning up but im not helping matter as i cant stop the giggling
:hihi:
sorry
Bonkers Mad!!!
18-08-06, 11:44 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(dibuzz @ 18th August 2006 - 10:29 PM) 190896</div>
Stop laughing, it's not out of choice that nobody sees it :cry:
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i know how you feel mate :rolleyes:
sassieb
18-08-06, 11:48 PM
oh dear, have i upset you? :( :unsure:
Im sorry :( but ive started mine so i can sympathise, kind of though it is early days here.
:D :thumbs:
Tis time for bed for me :tooth: :curly: :zzz:
Must be all this excitement and anticipation of the joys to come making me tired ;) :lazier: :lol:
Bonkers Mad!!!
19-08-06, 12:11 AM
night SP :friends:
Bonkers Mad!!!
19-08-06, 12:13 AM
night dibuzz :friends:
Night, dibuzz, hun ;)
Night, BM ;)