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Just that, do good dollops of Lemon and lime marmalade spread liberally on your morning toast (brown bread of course!) count as one of your five fruit groups per day?
So if you down a Vie and the marmalade you have covered two already!
Hmm and add a vitamin C tablet to that and you have three?
I am pretty bad at eating fruit because while I love to munch an apple I just don't feel like one every day and they go off and I end up putting them out for the birds to eat. Or if I get a bunch of green grapes... mmmmmm.... I tend to polish it off in a couple of days and then am grape deprived.
So I am hoping that jam counts!
StoneHenge
20-06-06, 10:19 AM
I have no idea, but I love your thinking!!!!!
I am a fruit addict, so I eat melon, apples, oranges, grapes & bananas till I am turning yellow!
Te he tiomet! :D
Annabel
20-06-06, 10:24 AM
lol@ tiomet! :lol: :lol:
So if jam counts, does that mean Cadburys Fruit and Nut bars are one of the 5 then? :P
StoneHenge
20-06-06, 10:46 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(banana @ 20th June 2006 - 9:21 AM) 173064</div>
5 fruit a day may make you either gain weight or get the runs unless you are very used to it and do loads of exercise. Fruit is ful of sugar and fruit acids can cause a lot of damage to teeth so never brush your teeth immediately after eating fruit otherwise you could end up wearing your enamel away.
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Excellent point Banana. They say wait at least 10 minutes after eating fruit because it weakens your enamel! It does have a lot of sugar, but I have mine as a fruit salad, so only a small box worth and an apple or nana after, so I think I am just within the realms of normal (yeah right!).
ooo cool advice and information thanks, Banana. I would take it as franchise to spoon down a bottle of lemon and lime marmalade but cannot bring myself to take in all that sugar!
I eat tons of vegetables, adore them! My problem is usually protein really since I went the veggie route so I tend to eat the musical fruit, which does not count as a fruit group, right? Eat lots of soy product or used to until I saw that documentary about how third world countries are growing soy to feed the western health food market instead of growing their sustenance crops :(
Quorn is another one, I eat it but it has a bad reputation according to what I have read on the web. I do not have an allergy reaction so I guess I am okay :unsure:
Yup so beans is really my protein source, although I will eat cheese - although I have no idea how vegetarian cheese equates with normal cheese... I could be suckered.
Just got a Lateral Thigh Trainer and love it. Between that and the dance mat I am getting loads of exercise at the moment. I do have an Orbit elliptical trainer which I loathe almost as much as my NFH so it is sitting lonely in a spare room fondly known as the spawn-from-hell-room.
Discipline is the worst thing. I am real overweight and while I lost a load of flubber I still struggle with exercising and my knees roar at me with the effort. I give them a good talking to as they quail when I approach the trainer. I am good to do warm up though and ten minutes in I think the old knees are enjoying it.
Determined to lose at least a stone and build up muscles for my Austria holiday in September. No way am I going to be the one puffing at the rear on the walkabouts! Plus I have some cool jeans I want to wear... even got embroidery, silly old fool!
I'm for the jam! And the fruit and nut bars - 3 or 4 is no problem! :D I've probably got enough filliings to protect my tooth enamel well enough to live on a good varied diet of toast, jam and chocolate anyway :lol:
Nice one tiomet! :hihi:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(banana @ 20th June 2006 - 9:43 AM) 173077</div>
Yes Eeyore but you'd have to eat about three or four of them - not good for the waistline. :hihi:
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I could give it a darned good go though :devil: A little extra dog walking a day - hey I'm healthy :lol:
StoneHenge
20-06-06, 01:25 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(dibuzz @ 20th June 2006 - 11:14 AM) 173119</div>
Right that's it!
I'm here trying to be good and you start talking about jam. Ok I can live with that but the fruit and nut chocolate had me drooling. I was just about coping when I read that word. Cheese. I am now a quivering wreck and cannot hold back any longer. Big chunk of cheese here I come!
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Don't do it!!!!!!
hehe, I used to love cheese, all sorts though I was careful with the stinky ones.
Someone told me I was a hypocrit for eating cheese if I was going veggie and while I figured at least you dont kill an animal for cheese that I would try to do the organic cheese and vegetarian cheese route. I still am sceptical though, cheese is good from any source!
Chocolate I can live without though I have been known to woof down the occasional easter egg. I tend to eat those School Bars and little packets of mixed sultanas and raisins now for sweet stuff.
On a woof down day after an anxiety attack it is best not to find sweet stuff in the house, I get into comfort eating! Getting better with that but best not to have temptation around!
Okay I am post-exercise and on the pint of cold water thing now. Got my endorphins doing good stuff to my mood! I feel good enough to do the ironing - though not the sheets!
And after that an hour of German language. I still have to figure out how learning to say `Is the man on the roof of the house?' is good to know, unless they tend to stand around on houses a lot over there and this is therefore a common question like `enough rain for you today?'
As far as I am aware jam is not included in the '5 - a- day' thing - it is too high in added refined sugar and the whole point is to eat whole, unadulterated fruit and veggies and to avoid added sugar & high fat in the diet.
mazza
you are right jam doesnt count this is from a five a day website
What counts?
Fresh, frozen, tinned and dried fruit and vegetables. Pure fruit and vegetable juices. Veg in ready meals, takeaways, pasta sauces and soups. Fruit in puddings. Click here (http://www.ivillage.co.uk/dietandfitness/nutrition/fooddiet/articles/0,,181168_160061-2,00.html) for a sample menu.But watch out for added salt/ fat/ sugar in takeaways and ready meals - check out the labels. Look out for the 5 A DAY logo (http://www.dh.gov.uk/PolicyAndGuidance/HealthAndSocialCareTopics/FiveADay/FiveADayGeneralInformation/FiveADayGeneralArticle/fs/en?CONTENT_ID=4001493&chk=xdEYKF) on packaging - it can only be used to promote fruit and vegetables without any added fat, sugars or salt.
What doesn't?
Potatoes, because they are considered a 'starchy' food like bread and pasta, but these are all important parts of a healthy diet.More than one glass of juice - even if you drink lots of it during the day, juice has hardly any fibre and has loads of sugar which is bad for your teeth. More than one portion of beans or pulses a day, because they don't give the same mixture of vitamins and minerals as fruit and veg. Jam. Vitamin pills and supplements, as they don't contain fibre. Munching your favourite fruit or vegetable five times a day. You need to eat a variety to get the maximum benefits from all the different nutrients.
sorry ladies you may need to attack the fruit bowl after all :(
Domestic Goddess
20-06-06, 06:44 PM
Tut! :rolleyes: Next you'll be saying that Cadbury's Cream eggs aren't as good for you as ordinary eggs!
Love my fruit, could eat it forever.... but sometimes it is so expensive to buy!
Munching your favourite fruit or vegetable five times a day. You need to eat a variety to get the maximum benefits from all the different nutrients[/b]
It seems weird this comes under the heading What Doesnt Count :blink:
It means if you adore apples then only the first one counts.
I am now dead sceptical and think this is a marketing ploy! At least this bit is!
coppernob
24-06-06, 10:04 PM
Love you way of thinking,tiomet!! :D I didn't think jam would count!! I'm glad ketchup does, makes me feel better for smothering it on every dinner (my cookings not that bad, honest :blink: ) I'm OK with my fruit portions,its veg I struggle on!!
It just says on that piece of info its because jam doesnt contain fibre :blink:
to be honest the whole thing confuses me and i dont want to spend a whole day working out what im eating and how much more i need to eat to be up on reccomended guidlines it takes the fun out of food
whats the betting someone will change it all soon and say five a day is bad for you :banghead: