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Domestic Goddess
02-09-05, 04:20 PM
Tony Blair's first speech since returning from his summer holiday has turned the spotlight on bad parents.

The Prime Minister has announced plans to increase parenting orders, as part of the government's so-called "respect agenda".


He said bad parenting is not just a private matter for families - and the state should intervene earlier.

The Prime Minister said more agencies would be allowed to apply for the parenting contracts and orders.

The orders can specify particular ways in which parents are required to exercise control over their children.

"New laws can't do it all," he said.

"But they can signal a new approach and a new determination on the part of the majority that it is time to reassert ourselves."

Mr Blair said the legal system should protect law-abiding citizens from a "dangerous" minority.

He said he was determined to send "a series of signals" across the system that things would change.

The full plans will be outlined in a policy paper in November.

Planet 24
02-09-05, 05:39 PM
Funny thing is I told him it was down to Poor Parenting 18months ago- Only now has the penny dropped?

Bonkers Mad!!!
02-09-05, 08:31 PM
call me cynical but i laughed out loud when i saw this on the news :unsure:

Planet 24
02-09-05, 09:36 PM
I call you honest- His Nibs is getting another letter - one that he wont lose in a hurry.
Poor old Tony feel sorry for him - He's a victim himself you know - of assured self deception - He's in denial!!!!!!!!

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Planet 24
03-09-05, 06:03 AM
Tony is in a world of his own- thankfully!

strontium
03-09-05, 09:23 AM
I'm interested! Why do you think Tony Blair has this wrong?

(I'm not a Tony Blair supporter).

Bonkers Mad!!!
03-09-05, 09:26 AM
i don't think anybody is suggesting that it's wrong :no: but most people here (i'd imagine) have very little faith in anything the PM has to say on ASB.

Planet 24
03-09-05, 09:42 AM
I live in his contstituency and met him - he promised action -nothing happened- he promised there would be contact with the chief of police P*** G****** - he never contacted him - ok he's busy that's why he has an agent - but he never contacted him either.
When I went back to see him - he said there had been a communication breakdown - and 'give me two weeks' I gave him 12 and went back again still no communication. People have also been warned not to speak to me as they'could lose their jobs'.
When I started out on this path - no-one ever thought I would get a reply to my letters let alone air time - but I did - I was persistent and I got to meet the great man.
Things changed, they then got worse- resulting in 23 bricks and bottles through my windows in 28 days.
I wrote to the Together team - went down London, handed in a petition to Downing Street on behalf of Victims of Anti-Social Behaviour - it has never been acknowledged.
I wrote to Louise Casey- she never replied, I wrote to Cherie Blair at the Matrix Chambers, she never replied. I went to the Home Office- 2 months later they told me to go to the local authorities ASB unit - we didnt have one, my local authorities said 'What does the Home office expect us to do for you' -after many complaints, we have an asb unit now - but it doesnt deal with asb relating to criminal damage etc - they have told me that's a police job and even now the local authorities maintain that asbo's should be taken out by the police, yet they have the ability and the facilities to take them out.
You end up playing table tennis between authorities and police and vice versa and the politicians just pass you by!
I am not alone in this area there are plenty of people who are coming forward because they too have been ignored.
I was asked in the beginning what I though caused antisocial behaviour and I said-poor parenting - its that simple.
Now, I believe Blair cares passionately... about things he can't change and we can all do that!
If a man and his cohorts refuses to help or even acknowledge people in his own backyard -how can you have any faith that this time around - he will do something for the rest of you?

er 59
03-09-05, 03:01 PM
hi all
im afraid i am one of the cynical people who believes this is just another empty promise :(

i will believe it when i see some something constructive done about antisocial behaviour that involves a parent being responsible for a childs actions
what is the old saying "actions speak louder than words"

sesentayuno
06-09-05, 12:47 PM
Like most people here, I am skeptical but I suppose it is better than no words at all, I think he has mentioned about instilling "respect" twice since the election, the first one was right after the election.

Honestly, I think the level of problem brought on by youths/yobs is reaching a level that the government cannot ignore, and it is evident in the media and the legislation.

All I can say is I am keeping my fingers crossed that they will do something for this one promise and restore some sanity in society so people like us can have some peace in our own home.

tortoise
06-09-05, 01:06 PM
I don't know anything about politics and don't really want to to be honest!

I just think it is a shame that any government has to even discuss new policies on childrens behaviour and think of ways to support parents.

My mum was useless when I was growing up, hence my grandparents worked full time and bought me up as their daughter. The thought of them being disappointed in me kept me from doing anything too terrible.

We try and instill values into LT about tolerence and different view points.

Support should be there for parents, but if we choose to have children then it is up to us to look after them not the Prime Minister. As I said I am not really up on politics, but I do believe that His Toniness does want what is best for children and parents. After all he is a Dad himself.

I think being called "Mum" or "Dad" is the best sound in the world, but it is also the hardest job. What other job can make you happy, sad, in turmoil, worried, break your heart and make you laugh until you want to pee yourself all in one day?

tact77
06-09-05, 01:15 PM
Originally posted by tortoise@6th September 2005 - 2:06 PM
I think being called "Mum" or "Dad" is the best sound in the world, but it is also the hardest job. What other job can make you happy, sad, in turmoil, worried, break your heart and make you laugh until you want to pee yourself all in one day?

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Here Here!! couldn't have put it any better....

strontium
06-09-05, 01:44 PM
Originally posted by tact77+6th September 2005 - 3:15 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(tact77 &#064; 6th September 2005 - 3:15 PM)</div>
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I think being called "Mum" or "Dad" is the best sound in the world, but it is also the hardest job. What other job can make you happy, sad, in turmoil, worried, break your heart and make you laugh until you want to pee yourself all in one day?

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Here Here&#33;&#33; couldn&#39;t have put it any better....

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Teaching does all those things to you, too.

Planet 24
07-09-05, 06:04 PM
I don&#39;t think that being a single parent be it mum or dad or having a large family or an only child makes a h&#39;apeth of difference. It&#39;s down to how you raise your children.
This isnt an overnight phenomenon, it&#39;s a third generation cop out, by those who are too tired to play with their children because they are too tired to look after their children, because they are too tired- though not always from overwork.

Inertia is alive and well and we poor saps are paying the price of it.

Planet 24
07-09-05, 06:11 PM
I hope Mr. Blair and his agent enjoy sorting through their mail this week as I am now back from going down south to make sure that my thoughts on the current situation are delivered to their door. Couldnt say before of course as I would have been burgled - though not necessarily by a thug&#33;

Domestic Goddess
07-09-05, 08:53 PM
Originally posted by Planet 24@7th September 2005 - 7:11 PM
I hope Mr. Blair** and his agent enjoy sorting through their mail this week as I am now back from going down south to make sure that my thoughts on the current situation are delivered to their door. Couldnt say before** of course as** I would have been burgled - though** not necessarily by a thug&#33;

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Once again, I am in awe of your bravery.




I wonder how long it will take the governemnt to realise that children need loving discipline. To be loved unconditionally, but firmly guided through their formative years, being taught right from wrong.
Something, somewhere has gone very wrong with our society.